The "Why I Hate Dogs" Series
Current issue of Time Magazine, week of July 22, 2013, has a three-page
article, “The Softer Side of Pit Bulls”.
Even before reading it I knew it would mention “Petey” from the Little Rascals TV show.
Pit Bull fanatics love to trot out Petey as their pit bull ambassador; they do it all the time.
The article is a classic case of having cake and wanting to eat it too. These pit nuts want the dogs to be seen as a distinct breed, a family friendly breed, then in the same breath imply it’s unfair to stereotype a breed.
Gee, only if the stereotype is negative, huh. The next time a pit bull mauls someone to death (give it about a week), Time magazine will have blood on its hands for promoting the most dangerous breed today as family friendly. Send a letter to the editor, letters@time.com, to point out pit bulls deserve their bad image.
By paul on 14 July 2013
(This post was extracted from the site WhyIHateDogs.com, that does not exist anymore, with the sole aim to keep it alive for all the normal people out there as the great info on that site is always relevant and timeless. Any concern, just drop a line.)
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- October 17, 2013 at 6:53 pm
- Rachel, I loved what you had to say. I agree with you 100%. It’s amazing how quick people are to point fingers at an animal. Getting rid of pit bulls will do nothing. It all comes down to irresponsible pet ownership. I see things like this all the time. I’m a CVT working at a city animal shelter. When I first started, I was shocked to see the amount of purebred Siberian Huskies we received. But then it was explained to me. People get them because of how pretty they are, and then the dog becomes reactive because he’s kept in a crate all day. A husky is a WORKING dog! They weren’t meant to be kept in a crate! Of course he’ll be destructive. No one bothers to research the breed that they get. And no animal should EVER be left alone with a child. Doesn’t anyone remember the saying, “A cat will take the baby’s breath away”? Cats don’t have magical powers, therefore, they can’t literally steal a baby’s breath. BUT cats love warmth. A sleeping baby seems like a heating pad to a cat. The cat doesn’t understand, cuddles up on the baby’s chest, and the baby suffocates. Is it the cat’s fault? No. Why was the cat in with the baby? What irresponsible parent leaves a child with an animal. It doesn’t matter how loving and loyal your pet is. It is an animal. Sometimes people have the best intentions and still screw up. I won’t deny that there are plenty of irresponsible people out there who own pit bulls. I’m not saying pit bulls can’t be destructive. But ANY dog can be. Pit bulls sell. Say what you will about pit bulls being dangerous, but we will always hear more about that than any other attack because it’s a juicy story. Rachel, thanks for your wonderful post. It was refreshing after reading so much bitterness.
- October 21, 2013 at 11:59 pm
- I am sure the first thing out of your mouth when a child gets mauled by a pit or any other dog is that it is the child’s fault. When it is the stupid owner’s fault for letting the dog near a child in the first place, thinking it’s so friendly and loves children.
- October 24, 2013 at 9:47 am
- Are Pit Bulls Really Dangerous
This article asks and answers the question
“Are Pitbulls Really Dangerous?”
Do pit bulls deserve their reputation as vicious “attack” dogs? An overwhelming amount of evidence suggests they do.
A five-year review of dog-bite injuries from the Children’s Hospital of Philadelphia, published in 2009 in the journal Plastic and Reconstructive Surgery, found that almost 51 percent of the attacks were from pit bulls, almost 9 percent were from Rottweilers and 6 percent were from mixes of those two breeds.
In other words, a whopping two-thirds of the hospital’s dog-attack injuries involved just two breeds, pit bulls and Rottweilers.
Other studies confirm these statistics: A 15-year study published in 2009 in the American Journal of Forensic Medicine and Pathology revealed that pit bulls, Rottweilers and German shepherds were responsible for the majority of fatal dog attacks in the state of Kentucky. [See What Your Dog’s Breed Says About You]
And a 2011 study from the Annals of Surgery revealed that “attacks by pit bulls are associated with higher morbidity rates, higher hospital charges and a higher risk of death than are attacks by other breeds of dogs.”
The authors of that 2011 study go on to say, “Strict regulation of pit bulls may substantially reduce the U.S. mortality rates related to dog bites.”
Douglas Wolfe
Victims of Pit Bulls Foundation
pitbullvictims.org - October 30, 2013 at 5:16 am
- Pit bulls aren’t the problem?
My 5 year old sister was attacked by a pit bull; it gave her 3 deep rooted bites before my brother gave it a nice kick to the side of the face followed by a stomping.
The neighbors didn’t even apologize, instead they just cursed us and blamed my sister for ” not running away”.
Dog lovers are just twisted, biased and inconsiderate cretins. - October 31, 2013 at 11:51 pm
- Here’s the thing. Dogs, like people, have personalities that vary widely. That german shepard is courageous, that rottweiler is more timid. That dachshund is tenacious, that borzoi is easygoing. That bulldog is very sociable, while that poodle is very aloof. The way dogs act is not based on their breeding, so much as the way they are treated. Yes, pit bulls were bred to fight other dogs. But it’s not like that is engraved into their personalities as it is with their anatomy! Because, ya know, being built to fight other animals is, as a matter of fact, EXTREMELY DIFFERENT from being trained to fight other animals. They are only built to fight, their structures prove that, but it’s not like they have had a thirst for blood since puppyhood.
Dogs are not automatically wired to be violent, even if it was what they were made to be. Like I said, all dogs have vastly different personalities. Sure, you have vicious dogs (*coughs* THEY WERE MORE THAN LIKELY ABUSED BECAUSE HUMANS ACTUALLY HAVE THE CAPABILITY TO BE PURPOSEFULLY AND NOT INSTINCTIVELY VIOLENT *coughs*), and then you have the sweet dogs that lick your hand and sit in your lap because DOGS ARE DOMESTICATED ANIMALS.
So nurture vs. nature once again comes onto play.
Now allow me to throw some statistics at you, because 100% facts would probably be more believable for you than my ramblings.
Here is a list of dog attack fatalities vs. the overall population of said breed (from the American Kennel Club (AKC), American Dog Breeders Association (A.D.B.A.) and United Kennel Club (UKC):
Apx 800.000 – 67 Fatal Attacks German Shepherds .008375%
Apx. 960,000 – 70 Fatal Attacks Rottweiler .00729%
Apx. 128.000 – 18 Fatal Attacks Great Dane .01416%
Apx. 114,000 – 14 Fatal Attacks Doberman .012288%
Apx. 72,000 – 10 Fatal Attacks St Bernard .0139%
Apx. 240,000 – 12 Fatal Attacks Chow Chow .005%
Apx 5,000,000- 60 Fatal Attacks American Pit Bull Terrier .0012%
A tad more than other dogs, yes, but THEY HAVE THE HIGHEST POPULATION OUT OF ALL OF THEM.
And pit bulls aren’t always used for fighting. Dog fighting has become more of an underground network, and is very illegal, so of course less dogs are being dragged into it, and more are being rehabilitated and such from being found in such a situation.
They are used for therapy work, search and rescue work, and as bomb/drug sniffing dogs (keep in mind that these dogs are not trained to attack, they are only used for searches).
Pit bulls are also known to be good with kids (earning them the “nanny dog” nickname). Seriously, they’re so well known for their good behavior with children that they got a NICKNAME.
In conclusion: Pit bulls are not naturally dangerous animals. There are hundreds of studies and stats PROVING that. The only ignorant person around here is you. - October 31, 2013 at 11:54 pm
- How are they NOT cute?
- October 31, 2013 at 11:55 pm
- I think I couldn’t of said it any better.
- October 31, 2013 at 11:56 pm
- Here’s the thing. Dogs, like people, have personalities that vary widely. That german shepard is courageous, that rottweiler is more timid. That dachshund is tenacious, that borzoi is easygoing. That bulldog is very sociable, while that poodle is very aloof. The way dogs act is not based on their breeding, so much as the way they are treated. Yes, pit bulls were bred to fight other dogs. But it’s not like that is engraved into their personalities as it is with their anatomy! Because, ya know, being built to fight other animals is, as a matter of fact, EXTREMELY DIFFERENT from being trained to fight other animals. They are only built to fight, their structures prove that, but it’s not like they have had a thirst for blood since puppyhood.
Dogs are not automatically wired to be violent, even if it was what they were made to be. Like I said, all dogs have vastly different personalities. Sure, you have vicious dogs (*coughs* THEY WERE MORE THAN LIKELY ABUSED BECAUSE HUMANS ACTUALLY HAVE THE CAPABILITY TO BE PURPOSEFULLY AND NOT INSTINCTIVELY VIOLENT *coughs*), and then you have the sweet dogs that lick your hand and sit in your lap because DOGS ARE DOMESTICATED ANIMALS.
So nurture vs. nature once again comes onto play.
Now allow me to throw some statistics at you, because 100% facts would probably be more believable for you than my ramblings.
Here is a list of dog attack fatalities vs. the overall population of said breed (from the American Kennel Club (AKC), American Dog Breeders Association (A.D.B.A.) and United Kennel Club (UKC):
Apx 800.000 – 67 Fatal Attacks German Shepherds .008375%
Apx. 960,000 – 70 Fatal Attacks Rottweiler .00729%
Apx. 128.000 – 18 Fatal Attacks Great Dane .01416%
Apx. 114,000 – 14 Fatal Attacks Doberman .012288%
Apx. 72,000 – 10 Fatal Attacks St Bernard .0139%
Apx. 240,000 – 12 Fatal Attacks Chow Chow .005%
Apx 5,000,000- 60 Fatal Attacks American Pit Bull Terrier .0012%
A tad more than other dogs, yes, but THEY HAVE THE HIGHEST POPULATION OUT OF ALL OF THEM.
And pit bulls aren’t always used for fighting. Dog fighting has become more of an underground network, and is very illegal, so of course less dogs are being dragged into it, and more are being rehabilitated and such from being found in such a situation.
They are used for therapy work, search and rescue work, and as bomb/drug sniffing dogs (keep in mind that these dogs are not trained to attack, they are only used for searches).
Pit bulls are also known to be good with kids (earning them the “nanny dog” nickname). Seriously, they’re so well known for their good behavior with children that they got a NICKNAME.
She includes a lot of information about pits in the description (and as you can see I have used some of it because it is amazing and backed-up by many reliable resources).
In conclusion: Pit bulls are not naturally dangerous animals. There are hundreds of studies and stats PROVING that. The only ignorant person around here is you. - November 2, 2013 at 12:06 am
- “Yes, pit bulls were bred to fight other dogs. But it’s not like that is engraved into their personalities as it is with their anatomy! Because, ya know, being built to fight other animals is, as a matter of fact, EXTREMELY DIFFERENT from being trained to fight other animals.”
So, does this mean the next time a herding dog nips my thigh or runs around me in circles over and over again–as they quite often do–I can assume it was because the owner trained them to herd? If a basset hound drowns out its owners commands to follow a scent, it was trained to follow scents? If a greyhound kills your neighbor’s pet rabbit, was it trained to kill rabbits? All dogs were made with a purpose, and those purposes are engraved into them at least somewhat with genetics. You don’t need to train a pit bull to fight — or any other fighting breed. Pit bulls, however, have been a prime choice for fighting because they were made solely for it, and as such, the traits that make a champion fighting dog have been grossly exaggerated. One of these traits is unpredictability, which was advantageous because it gave the dog an edge in a fight. The pit bull’s unpredictability has served time and time again, as seen in the all-too-many cases of people and other animals being gravely injured by pits that were, up until the instant they attacked, gentle and affectionate. “We didn’t abuse him or train him to be mean. He’s never had a problem.” Famous last words. Any dog can be dangerous, and any dog can be unpredictable under the right circumstances, but pit bulls are a different case.
“Dog fighting has become more of an underground network, and is very illegal”
When fighting was outlawed, “dogmen” started focusing on dogfights exclusively since they’re a lot easier to hide than bullbaiting. They started adapting dogs for these fights, and this was the time when pit bulls were either developed or already existed under the name Pit and Bull Terrier: http://www.dogsbite.org/pdf/pit-bulls-gary-wilkes-spring-2010-off-lead.pdf Quote: “Over time, Bull Terriers and Staffordshire Bull Terriers faded from the dog fighting pits. The most logical assumption is that they simply couldn’t compete with their appropriately named cousin (p3).”
As for the therapy, bomb-sniffing aspect of pit bulls. The question here is not if they do this work, but if they should do this work. I’m firmly convinced pit bulls are too unpredictable and dangerous to be trusted. To me it seems like another opportunity to retool the image of the breed so people will become completely convinced they don’t have a bad reputation for a valid reason. - November 2, 2013 at 1:12 am
- You cannot respond with anything else, coz you’re an idiot.
- November 2, 2013 at 5:17 pm
- You’re welcome.
- November 2, 2013 at 9:33 pm
- I don’t believe German shepherds and Rottweilers have been more deadly than pit bulls. On the top ten, yes. But not above pit bulls. What span of years are your statistics from? German shepherds were the second most popular dog breed in 2012 and Rottweilers were ninth. Both have been on the top fifteen since at least 2002: http://www.akc.org/reg/dogreg_stats.cfm I didn’t see American pit bull terrier, but Staffordshire bull terriers are #76 and and American Staffordshire terriers are #79. It is not unreasonable, then, to imagine there are higher populations of German shepherds and Rottweilers than pit bulls.
Also, 60 pit bull deaths vs 10 St. Bernard deaths or even 18 Great Dane deaths are hardly a tad more. - November 11, 2013 at 11:23 pm
- Wrong. Wolves have been found killing young elk in surplus if they have the opportunity to do so, even when they’re not hungry. Do you honestly think they won’t rip a living fawn apart? Because they do. Wolves also dig into their prey regardless if they’re dead or alive, which includes elk fawns and other fawns in general. They’ve also been noted to rip coyotes apart alive for varying reasons. Hunting dogs have the instinct to kill things they way they do because they’re descended from wolves; the only reason you don’t see wolves killing massively on the same scale dogs are capable of is because they’re wild animals that do not have access to as much food and prey. If they did, they would act no different.
Cats kill hundreds of birds and small animals, and their owners see only a portion of the body count. They kill countless more than dogs and leave up to fifty percent of their body count to rot. Weasels have been noted to slaughter entire chicken coops and leave the corpses behind after taking only a few. There are countless cases of wild animals that will kill for fun; hell, sea otter males have been found raping baby seals, and dolphins are notorious for raping other dolphins, as well as killing for pleasure.
It’s fine if you hate dogs, because not everyone likes them, but you’re misinformed. - December 13, 2013 at 7:02 pm
- GOD I wish I were brave enough to put this on Facebook.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=648923875166375
Pit bull advocates, are you brave enough to watch? - February 28, 2014 at 9:02 pm
- Trending Now on Patch
Mom Wants Pitbulls Banned After Her Toddler is Mauled
Mom becomes activist for banning the breed in Georgia.
Posted by Tara May Tesimu , February 18, 2014 at 10:09 AM
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A Georgia mother wants pit bulls banned.
Fulton County, Ga. — A woman whose son was mauled to death by a pit bull terrier wants Georgia lawmakers to ban the breed from the state.
WSB-TV reports Angela Rutledge began her campaign to ban pit bulls after her 2-year-old son was mauled to death by her family’s dog in April 2012. The Fulton County woman headed Tuesday to the steps of the state capitol in Atlanta.
Rutledge says she has concluded pit bulls are “an aggressive breed” that can pose a danger even to their owners.
She was being joined at the statehouse rally by Jeff Borchardt of Wisconsin, who founded the group Daxton’s Friends for Canine Education and Awareness after his 14-month-old son was killed by pit bulls, WSB-TV reported. - February 28, 2014 at 9:15 pm
- This happened in Newark NJ. Apparently the father believed the “Nanny Dog myth”. The boy’s father is being charged. No mention of the dogs being put down.
A 10-year-old city boy was home alone Wednesday when two pit bulls viciously attacked and critically injured him inside his Ironbound apartment, Newark Police said.
The boy was taken to University Hospital with life-threatening injuries following the attack on Hawkins Court at about 11:30 a.m. Wednesday, according to NJ.com.
A neighbor kicked in the apartment door when he heard the boy screaming as the dogs mauled and bit him, the article said. The boy suffered serious injuries to his face and neck, neighbors told NJ.com.
An officer needed to shoot both dogs, killing one of them, as the animals charged at police when they arrived.
The boy’s father, Enrique Carrillo, 41, was charged with endangering the welfare of a child, according to NJ.com.
http://newarknj.patch.com/groups/police-and-fire/p/pit-bulls-maul-newark-boy-10-left-home-alone - June 8, 2014 at 9:59 am
- There were several different dogs that played Petey throughout the run of the show. One of them WAS, in fact, fed meat mixed with glass.
- June 12, 2014 at 7:19 pm
- Funny thing is that I have a friend named Izzy who has a pit bull. 😛
- June 22, 2014 at 3:14 am
- People like Death to Pitbulls have their hearts filled with hate and have no room for anything else..I guess they are all related to Hitler..
- June 22, 2014 at 3:15 am
- another Hitler…feel so sorry for you
- June 22, 2014 at 3:17 am
- you must be a serial killer in the making Izzy…
- June 22, 2014 at 3:24 am
- You shouldn’t have taken them, they would be better off with someone that has a caring soul, not an ugly one like yours, snakelady.
- June 22, 2014 at 3:26 am
- they ar not the ideal for everyone..whatever breed you want do yor research.
- June 22, 2014 at 3:33 am
- I am a person that is a responsible dog owner and yes I have a pit bull. i learned about the breed and I am still learning and will be learning for the rest of my life. Many feel that it is just pit bull owners that are irresponsible but anyone can be regardless of whaat breed of dog they have. And some of you are so filled with hate there is no room in your heart for love or compassion and I truly feel sorry for you.
- June 22, 2014 at 3:38 am
- doghater…I bet you just hate everything…just wonder what God would say to you and to all of the other dog haters and pit bull haters…..
- June 22, 2014 at 10:40 am
- Reality check for you… Have you done research on the other end of the spectrum?/ Have you researched the many pit bull that have saved people…that are therapy dogs ; rescue dogs etc.. I think I am just wasting my time because nothing I say or prove to you will suffice. You just hate and that is just so very sad. Maybe one day you will be facing death and the one thing you hate the most will save your life…Then how will you feel about the breed at that point?
- June 22, 2014 at 10:47 am
- Dogsfromhell; what has caused you to hate?/ Have you ever met a pit bull?? They were once the most beloved dog in the USA; Have you even tried to find out good things about them?
- June 22, 2014 at 10:49 am
- People need to be responsible, whatever breed of dog they own. They are many that are not responsible, but there aremany that are.
- June 22, 2014 at 10:55 am
- There are more people that kill humans than dogs and they should be removed from the community.. A When the kids were attacked, where were the parents??
- June 23, 2014 at 10:59 am
- Honestly I thought I would be reading the article; guess not. I am not here to bash anyone. I just have come to realize that you hate dogs and no matter what info given, you will now and forever hate dogs. So I will not visit here again.
- June 23, 2014 at 11:16 pm
- I can write some facts to state my opinion but truth is you people just don’t get it so let me put it this way…. SHUT UP!!! Go find something better to do and complain about. I sure there’s something missing in your sour lives that you need to come on here and bash dogs or pittes in general. I own 3 and yes they are strong, hard headed, and strong willed so you have to raise it properly. Love and boundaries are key for these dogs. People kill, rape, kidnap kids and adults everyday and you’re wasting your time hating dogs???
Rethink your priorities. - January 20, 2015 at 12:19 pm
- Well i had a pitbull never hurt anyone. But a friend of mine
Had a chiauiawai that sent someone to the hosital to get 75
Stitches in their face. Well. All dogs bite so. If you down one
Breed down them all. - June 18, 2015 at 9:20 am
- My preacher owns three rescue pits, it’s not about looking tough it’s about love and caring for God’s creatures
- August 13, 2015 at 12:35 pm
- “My preacher owns three rescue pits, it’s not about looking tough it’s about love and caring for God’s creatures”
Dogs are not God’s creatures. They are hybrid pieces of shit that eat shit. Therefore your logic is flawed and all dogs can be buried alive. - August 18, 2015 at 9:59 am
- hahahaha. It’s a dog eat dog world out there fromhell.
- September 18, 2015 at 4:05 pm
- Thank gawd I live in Ontario Canada where these ugly and vicious mutts are BANNED!!!!!!! There must be good reason for our government to have done this – Pit nutters need to wake up – those things are time bombs and should be irradiated from the face of the planet!!
- November 8, 2015 at 10:49 am
- It’s funny really, how we ‘dog haters’ are trying to save the massive, deluded communities that currently infest this world with lies, telling us of how great these dangerous animals are by showing proof of their dangerous acts, proof of statistics showing how they pollute our environment, it is FACT that they are butt ugly creatures, it is FACT that they live based on instinct no matter if they are domesticated or not, thus they will attack any human for any unpredictable reason, and dog lovers will continue to blame humans, usually dog haters for their dogs behaviour, or they will down right just not admit to their dog being bad at all ‘despite the proof against that statement’…
We are trying very hard to save this world, but yet there are people like Veronyka, these dog lovers/owners/cultists etc. who come on here and support the idea of children’s faces getting mauled off, humans breathing in faecal matter-particles 24/7, ugly creatures bleeding us of money, true happiness, time and resources and yet they continue to call US monsters, or idiots or dog abusers…
Sure, there are some of us who wish the canine species to be erased entirely, but the honest truth of the matter is that it would only do our entire community, and planet a great deed, sure, it will upset some people, but a little “boohoo’ing” from people is a small price to pay for the global safety of Earth’s superior creatures *humans*.
We can continue to provide proof as to why dogs are ugly, stupid, pathetic, annoying, useless, upsetting, flea-ridden, unloving, greedy, attention-seeking, dangerous (and more) animals.
Yet these dog lovers continue to teach their children, and spread the news to others that all of this behaviour is something that should be supported by calling dogs ‘family’, kissing their grimy, germ-ridden mongrels, and having a go at the very people ‘us’ seeking to protect human-kind from the dumb beasts. - November 11, 2015 at 7:58 am
- I’ve been reading some of these posts & the reasoning makes zero sense to me bc many are listing that 30 or so people have been killed by dogs this year & they cannot understand why people put money into dogs, etc yet more people than that have been killed in the inner city near me in the last few months. I guess we should say all the inner city residents are dangerous & should be put down & no one should seven try to help them bc it’s in their genes to kill. lets actually do some research on the percentage of dogs that attack/kill versus the percentage of people who attack/kill. When percentage of dog kills exceeds human kills then I might start changing my mind about dogs being “dangerous”.
- November 11, 2015 at 8:30 am
- To take my point further, the inner city area I’m speaking of is made up of a majority African Americans & Hispanic residents. So since they have had so many murders & attacks in this area, I guess we should say no one should ever adopt an African american or Hispanic child bc they are all predisposed to aggression. That would be just as stupid an argument as the argument pit bull haters are making. Look at the percentage of pit bulls in the country vs the amount of pit bull attacks/kills then look at the amount of people living in these high crime, minority based, inner city areas vs the amount of attacks/kills in those areas & you could come to the same conclusion or make the same argument for both. However, both arguments would be ignorant. Humans are the most dangerous animals on earth by far (regardless of race or location). I’m an attorney & would much rather give money to an animal shelter than to the welfare system bc animals can’t take care of themselves, people can. If a person legitimately can’t care for themselves/work, then they will qualify for disability. I would also rather give money to animal organizations who are working to preserve a species or the environment. Just as dog haters have lost faith in dogs, many animal lovers have lost faith in the majority of humanity.
- November 11, 2015 at 3:55 pm
- Ah. the humans and dogs apples and oranges argument. Not very original. I was hoping for some better entertainment.
DOMESTIC PETS DON’T KILL HUMANS ! - November 12, 2015 at 11:45 am
- Lawgal74
To take my point further, the inner city area I’m speaking of is made up of a majority African Americans & Hispanic residents. So since they have had so many murders & attacks in this area, I guess we should say no one should ever adopt an African american or Hispanic child bc they are all predisposed to aggression
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By your own words you admit to their being a problem. It might also be worth pointing out to you that African Americans and Hispanics are not breeds of humans. Pits and their smarmy cousins were bred by humans for one thing. To fight. The truth is the common pit is not behaving in a violent manner for the breed. They are simply doing what their DNA has been plugged in to do. Environment and upbringing , training have been proven to accomplish zilch in relation to when and if a pit is going to decide that today is the day the baby gets chewed apart. On the flip side we know that poverty and lack of resources and absentee parents are the biggest issues in the neighborhoods you mention.
A simpler way to understand that pits are unable to control that impulse to grip, shake and shred would be comparing cats and birds.
I’ve had friends that had pet birds and cats for years. And one day the cat acts on it’s instincts to hunt the b bird usually with a very bad outcome for the bird. Most people can accept a herding dog herds but mention that a dog reconditioned from bull baiting to pit fighting might have a tendency to go postal you run into a headlock with the pit-a-holics Most dog breeds were created to fulfill a specific function. Those jaws were not developed to hold the baby. It is unacceptable for a domestic pet to attack humans totally unprovoked. Taking a bone, toy, being in a bouncy swing or any other nonsense or saying the dog was defending ITS yard when it killed a child need to be addressed in criminal court with the owners going to jail for a very long time. - November 13, 2015 at 11:37 am
- Gee DFH going back and reading the troll post she seems awfully racist. Do we allow that here ?
I suppose, since they’re using examples of a dog from a show that began nearly 100 years ago, that they also believe you can pull a tooth by tying one end of a string to the tooth, one to a doorknob, and slamming the door. If it was done on television, it must be true.
Petey died of NATURAL causes. That’s history.
Love the way you haters make up stuff.
This is the whole problem with this country. It’s either an obsession with fetuses or dogs. Listen to you “my 4-year-old” “she needed an operation” blah blah. Meanwhile, actual children and elderly (usually) who end up mauled by these wonderful, sweet, loving beasts are just forgotten collateral damage.
Your kids are grown – why don’t you work to save the wild animals in your area? Many of the charismatic species (lions, rhinos, chimps) are threatened with extinction. Yet otherwise intelligent people with grown kids and resources to share pour them into this overbred species that is taking over the country. What a waste!
I long ago gave up trying to make sense of the modern American dog owner. I was in another country for a month recently where dogs were not a national obsession and it was amazing. Even I, after having been attacked twice by asshole dogs with asshole owners, had not realized how crazy this country is until I got back.
Is there any hope?
And I bet they all eat factory farmed meat without a shred of guilt. Not to mention the wasted resources going to these creatures.
On another note, my son has a friend with one of the “sweetest pits in the world”. She seems to like people but has attacked and maimed several other dogs resulting in the owner paying out thousands in vet bills. Still, he posts her picture on FB and all the other fanatical bullshit pit owners like to recite.
Looks like we have some cleanup to do……..
And, jesus god, I agree with you, Izzy. If you threw a pitbull into a river, you could skim ugly for months.
Pitbulls deserve their bad reputation. When will people ever realize that? -_-
Now i’ll explain the actual history, you dimwit.
YES, pit bulls were bred to fight other dogs. Big whoop-de-doo, am I right? However, they have always been specifically bred for people friendliness. How do you think the dog fighters could tend to their dogs wounds if they were vicious towards people?! How the hell do you think they would be able to pull them out of the ring if they were aggressive towards people?! Infact, dog fighters back in the day wanted a dog that was friendly with their family/children, and ANY pit bull that showed human aggression was immediately killed. Because of their fighting history, they are MORE LIKELY to be friendly than other breeds. Just because pits may be prone to dog aggression does NOT mean they will turn and attack a child. I’ve been an animal shelter volunteer for 6 years and we’ve had nasty German Shepherds, Rottweilers, Labs, even Chihuahuas and other small breeds, but NEVER was I afraid of any pit bull that came through our shelter doors. Never have I been given a reason to be afraid. I’ve seen pits brought in that were starved to death, abused, ngelected, owned by drug dealers, etc. and all of them have still been sweet and loyal dogs who TO THIS DAY have never attacked or mauled someone.
Also, I hope you know that the media ALWAYS labels 90% of dog attacks as “pit bulls” but their is NEVER PROOF that it was actually a pit bull. What about the other stories of dogs attacking and killing people that weren’t pit bulls, you seem to not want to mention those for some reason? I know of a baby that was killed by a jack russell, a child that had their earn torn off by a labrador, and ive heard MULTIPLE other stories of goldens, labs, cocker spaniels, etc. attacking. That is because ANY breed can attack. The media likes to cause a stir and start propaganda, so they label any attack as “pit bull”.
Anyway, you people are crazy. When I am finally able to go out and adopt a pit from my local shelter I can not wait to walk him all around you idiot people and show off what a great dog I have. (;
For starters, After pit bulls, Rottweilers kill and seriously injure more people than any other breed/type of dog. Sure, other breeds of dogs can attack, but NO breed has killed more than pit bulls, and Of the 37 people in the US attacked and killed by dogs so far this year , 24 were killed by pit bulls. Pit bulls serve no useful purpose and they should all be rounded up and shot!
And For your information, You people who think all dogs or all the same,pit bulls are MORE LIKELY to be friendly than other breeds or that you have to “train” a pit bull to be “mean,” are so full of s**t that if your eyes aren’t brown already, they soon will be. Different breeds/types of dogs were created for specific purposes and each has a set of genetic characteristics associated with that particular breed/type. Pit bulls have already killed over 24-25 people in the US this year and I’m sure there will be more before the year ends.
Also, I don’t know who copy-pasted as me in the September 21 post. Wasn’t me but I guess I shouldn’t be miffed. It’s rather easy for an anon to get a doppelgänger.
Did you know lions, chimpanzees, gorillas and rhinos, not to mention many whale and dolphin species are on the verge of extinction? Why are you obsessed with protecting an over populated pest species that is ugly, needy and smelly, dangerous but can’t live without humans- pathetic.
Personally, I’d be quite comfortable with the idea that all dogs over about twenty pounds be leashed and muzzled. Unlike the owner of this blog, I don’t hate dogs, but I’ve seen way to many dog owners who apparently have little regard for other humans. Trust me, I’d be very happy to see owners whose dogs bite punished appropriately regardless of the breed.
My daily jog is routed to avoid overly territorial dogs whose owners don’t have adequate fencing, and that includes a terrifying standard poodle, a breed of dog I normally like, and no pit bulls, as it happens. So why don’t we work together to have stricter laws for all dog owners.
I’d say that’s enough data to make your claim just more pit obsession bullshit…
The breed needs to be wiped off the face of the planet. But inbred half-wits like you don’t have any other way of getting attention. I’ll juz git me a pit bull and I’ll be special…
“yall” don’t come back now, ya heah…..
Betty Todd, age 65 (South Carolina), Christian Gormanous, 4 (Texas), Elsie Grace, 91 (California), Isaiah Aguilar, 2 (Texas), James Harding, 62 (Maryland), Ryan Maxwell, 7 (Illinois), Dax Borchardt, 14 months, (Illinois), Monica Laminack, 21 months (Georgia), Tyler Jett, 7 (Florida), Claudia Gallardo, 38 (California), Jordyn Ardnt, 4 (Iowa), Beau Rutledge, 2 (Georgia), Pamela Maria Devitt, 63 (California), Carlton Freeman, 80 (South Carolina) Nephi Selu, 6 (California), Arianna Jolee Nerrbach, 5 (South Carolina) — all murdered by pit bulls.
A 17th person, Rachel Honabarger, 35 (Ohio) was killed May 2 by her own German shepherd, an 18th, Ayden Evans, 5, (Arkansas) was murdered by a 150-pound bullmastiff, and a 19th, a 63-year-old woman in Liberty County (Texas), was killed by a Rottweiler-mix she had adopted two weeks earlier.
I got it right the first time for the first three, second time for the last.
You know the difference between a dachshund and a pit bull? If a dachshund bites you, you can either punt it or run. If a pit bull bites you, you might die. This is not just about people not training their pit bull. The bigger problem is the amount of people in mass DENIAL or NAIVETY about what pit bulls were created for and what they can–and have–done. They were created as the ultimate fighting machine. The reason they’re “good with people” is because in animal fights, the handler had to be able to come in at any time to pull the dog out of the pit without being bitten. And for Jesus sake, some breeds are, by standard, poorly behaved around most people and animals, and not fit to be in a domestic society. Fila Brasilieros are so mistrustful that in dog shows, judges aren’t supposed to touch them. Their relatives, the likely extinct Cuban/Siberian/Russian bloodhounds, pursued escaped slaves and tore them to shreds. Pit bulls were genetically hardwired to go after their game until it was dead. Why is it only pit bull fanciers have the magical ability to tell what a pit bull is? Not everyone mistakes a Lab, Rottweiler, or Great Dane as a pit bull!
People who hate dogs (and animals) are pretty much sub-human filth: you have no souls and it’s evident from what you’ve written. Your hearts must be the size of peas.
Since dogs are such great judges of character, it’s no wonder they probably hate all of you.
I don’t see how acknowledging a breed’s origins constitutes a lack of a soul.
You people are so deluded you can’t think straight.
Speaking about cats, Cats are much more destructive to wildlife then dogs,Humans are the most destructive to the environment,we are the ones that wiped out entire species and landscapes.
In fact, Cats are the ones that are a danger to wild species,which are more vital then chickens. Just like I said before, Cats kill for fun as well. My sisters cat killed a baby rabbit and left it to a slow death,My Mother at that time had to end its life. I had a cat that killed many rodents and birds and only ate about 35% of her kills.
As for feces killing grass, You are completely wrong. for instance, it isn’t the feces that kill grass, but the animal’s urine. The composition of dog feces is no more harmful to the environment as that of pigs or other omnivores– if pig manure can be used as fertilizer, I am pretty sure dog feces are a go as well (though, probably a fair bit more unpalatable smell wise). Dogs are also not the only species that defecates in water and feeds algal growth– cows, hippos, reptiles, fish, whales, etc. all defecate in or near water sources (does that mean that fish and whales are by some stretch, suicidal?)
Bird feces are by far the most detrimental to the environment, because of their acidity from being mixed with urine. Dog feces won’t eat away at car paint, but raven feces will.
You are nothing but a delusional troll. I have no idea what happened to you to make you despise dogs, but just cause you despise them does not mean you should spew your hate around the internet for everyone to see, nor should you spew forth your crude lies either. Get your facts straight, and maybe come back when you’ve grown up and learned some common courtesy and proper manners.
Re: Your assertion that we need to “get our facts straight”.
You will need to review my post regarding dog feces. These FACTS are reported by the U.S. Center for Disease Control which you may research yourself. Simply scroll to the bottom of the post to find the source and others if you can read that far. So yes, dog shit does in fact pollute our drinking water while the other animals you cite live in their natural habitats and thus support their own complex ecosystems. This concept will likely require some reading on your part as well. Perhaps if dogs aka wolves had been left to their own natural habitat in the wild we would not have the canine crisis we have today. Per your other “facts” , the next time my trailer trash neighbor lets his two shit machines out to use his backyard toilet, I will certainly advise him that the reason he has a polka dotted lawn is due to dog URINE not the dog shit he goes out to mow once a week. Perhaps he can chase them around the yard with a urinal to fix this dilemma. Now as for cats, they may kill other animals but as far as I know they are not known for maiming and murdering children. And are we to understand you are complaining about cats providing rodent control??
http://www.cdc.gov/HEALTHYPETS/health_benefits.htm
And did you even read the rest of my comment, or could you not be bothered as reading a simple comment would be too much for you? Let me cry my eyes out for you. Boo hoo hoo.
Some parents also kill and abuse their children, so does it mean parents should be banned?
In fact, MANY things we use are dangerous and can kill.
And as for dogs killing children, why were they attacked? Because their parents couldn’t even bother to watch them and shouldn’t of even been parents in the first place!
And I literally don’t give a damn about your neighbor. It’s YOUR problem, not mine. Nobody cares, and your damn neighbor has NOTHING to do with what I am talking about. Keep on topic, or don’t bother posting!
So your reply was a complete WASTE of my time and was just whining about YOUR problems. Next time, please don’t waste my time.
I suspect you are a high school student. This is a site where people who do not want dogs forced on them come to support each other. We try to educate the “un-invited” such as yourself. It is usually a waste of breathe. Your long-winded posts reciting dog mantra are not new to us. You need to read comments from myself and others as we all get very bored repeating these concepts to dog worshippers like you. However I will point out one huge fallacy in your delusional reasoning. If a child is ever attacked or killed by a dog, it is not the victim’s fault nor the victim’s parents fault. The dog and its owners are 100% responsible. If a dog is has not been properly socialized and it attacks or kills, it has no place as a domestic pet or in a residential area. There are never any excuses. Victims are not to blame. Wild animals attack perceived threats not domestic pets. NO EXCUSES. If this is your thought processes then you are an abusive/neglectful parent waiting to happen. Lastly, you are an obvious attention seeker. You should not be given any further attention.
If I am an attention seeker, then why do you reply to my comments that would be giving me “attention”?
I NEVER said it was the victims fault. I was talking about if the attacker dog was the family’s PET, not somebody elses dog! Obviously you didn’t read properly.
Thank you for wasting my time again.
Out of respect for my fellow posters, I will refrain from using the colorful language this deserves. If I have to see one more dog kisser saying I don’t have a soul because I don’t like DOGS I will lose my freaking mind.
I like animals. I love cats, and I have one. I love snakes, and I have close to 100 (breeder NOT hoarder). I like birds, so I have feeders set up all over my property. I adore penguins. I admire and respect the beauty of all wild animals. I will slam on my brakes to avoid hitting any animal in the road. So how am I soulless….because I don’t like your pet of choice? Because if your pit bull wandered onto my property, I would have the right to defend myself and my family against it. A 30.06 would work nicely.
I live with two dogs. Two obnoxious mutts I put up with for my family’s sake. I have despised dogs all my life. Having them in my house just sealed it. So what is your smartass response to that, dog lover (Sharon)? I have dogs, I help take care of them, and don’t abuse them….but once they’re gone there will be no more.
Soulless? Animal hater? Not even close.
I don’t hate animals at all, in fact, I’m known as something of an animal lover. However, I don’t anthropomorphize them and I respect them for what they are. Some animals are powerful and, yes, dangerous. People need to handle them in a manner appropriate to their nature. Clearly, many people with large, powerful dogs, not just pit bulls, but mastiffs, rottweilers and others, are not prepared to handle a powerful, potentially aggressive dog.
I wish all these people who say they love pit bulls would work for a crackdown on dog fighting, irresponsible breeding and animal abuse rather than worrying about talking a few people who don’t like pit bulls into liking them. Do you seriously think you’re going to talk anyone on a blog entitled “Why I Hate Dogs” into adopting a pit bull? (This is my first time on this blog. I’ve never even seen it before, but the title is a big clue as to its orientation.) Personally, I don’t hate dogs and once even toyed with the notion of adopting one, but it’s no skin off my back if the owner of this site doesn’t like them. To each his own. I like cats. One of my closest friends, a dog person, hates them. He doesn’t hurt them, so what do I care.
Frankly, I wouldn’t mind if dogs liked me a little less, because maybe they wouldn’t jump all over me and lick my face.
The people who are trying to “rehabilitate” the image of pit bulls are putting animals in homes that may not be prepared to care for a dog like that properly. Advocates for most other breeds will have lists like: Do not adopt a ______ if, followed by a list of things an owner may or may not be prepared to do. For instance, greyhound advocates will tell you not to adopt a greyhound unless you have a very tall, palisade-type fence around your yard, not to adopt if you have small pets, etc. Yet pit bull advocates claim that pit bulls are seemingly the ideal pet for everyone. It’s not even an issue that interests me much, but my bs meter is triggered. There is no ideal pet for everyone.
I’ve owned two dobermans, yet never heard a doberman owner viciously attack and diminish anyone who has been attacked by one or thinks they’re scary. Because the majority of doberman owners will openly admit that the breed may be dog aggressive or potentially aggressive around unfamiliar visitors. We know this, and will take precautions at the first sign a doberman displays of aggression because indeed this breed of dog was not designed to quietly attack and not stop until it kills, and will show warning signs, typically a warning growl for another dog to back the eff off. You don’t tend to find a ton of doberman owners who fanatically explain that training a doberman not to bark and loving it enough will take away its ingrained instinct to protect. Because we know that this was a dog bred for protection, and don’t make ridiculously radical claims that genetics and history are distorted by people who hate dobermans and don’t actually have any meaning. Do you hear an abundance of doberman owners insisting all breeds are the same, and dobermans are no different, when one attacks? I guess we should start doing that more often, since pit bull owners are all over that band wagon. There are droves of comments highlighting how far too many pit bull owners have deluded themselves into believing that enough training and love means that they have miraculously cured their pitbull of decades and decades worth of genetically engineering a dog whose utmost instinct is to kill. These guys are miracle workers! They continue to believe that because they’ve never been bitten by a pitbull, it must mean the entire breed is made of docile, loving, creatures who would only attack under some vague definition of a “bad owner.” The pit bull is like any other dog breed! Blame the deed not the breed! They go to sickening lengths to malign victims of an attack or throw a fellow pit bull owners whose dogs have just attacked someone under the bus and then continue to believe that there is such a thing as a “responsible owner” of a breed designed for no other reason than to kill. Any responsible owner can clearly see the inherent risk and threat an unpredictable breed designed for the sheer purpose of killing poses, and logically concludes that owning such a dog, no matter how friendly it may seem, is not worth the amount of potential risk involved. Yet somehow, no other dog breed has received such a concerted and publicized effort to retool its public image like the pit bull, which I’ve discovered according to these owners is due to the organized effort to of the secret media conspiracy designed to destroy and euthanize every pitbull in existence, apparently. Man those media people are incredibly organized! Advocate groups, owners, and rescues go to absurd and disturbing lengths to prove this breed is a suitable family pet, rehabilitate aggressive dogs, revitalize the “nanny myth” and continue to push how friendly and misunderstood the pitbull is, and in the process, continue to put the life of an animal above any concern it my pose to the public. Couldn’t they choose to rehabilitate the tremendously abused greyhound, that has no history of mauling people’s pets or children once it’s adopted, instead? I guess the logical conclusion is that they’re greyhound racists or something… comparing a dog to a group of hateful and vicious people is all the same to them, right? Concealing and denying and distorting that this a dog breed capable of bringing down a horse, and telling the public that love and training will prevent any pitbull from ever reverting to its natural instincts, which in this case is killing, is beyond my understanding, and somehow worth it to these people to risk the innocent lives who are all too often put in their crossfire.
When dobermans and Boston Terriers are bred for bloodsport and start mauling and killing people in alarming numbers, I won’t oppose placing a ban or restrictions on owning either breed. I’ll reconsider the liability of owning one, and realize there’s no logical reason for owning a pet genetically engineered to kill. Until that day comes, I will continue to feel nauseated by the people who feel that owning pitbulls, or any other dog designed and continually bred to kill, is something that should ever be placed over the value of hundreds of other adotable dog breeds, but more importantly, any human life.
It’s not wrong to dislike dogs– everyone is entitled to their own opinions. But it is wrong to generalize and say that anyone who DOES like dogs is a bumbling idiot, or to contact Time Magazine and complain about a dog breed that you don’t fully understand. Yes, there are many irresponsible dog owners out there, and that is why people are attacked or bitten– you have every right to be upset with them. However, I ask you to stop being so hypocritical and have some respect. You say that all dog lovers are “stupid, sociopathic weirdos”, and think nothing of it; however, I know that all of you would be extremely livid if I called you the same thing simply because you didn’t like dogs.
I agree that Pits maybe aren’t the best suited for a life with small children, as they are bred to be guard dogs. Other than that, if raised correctly, they really are very loyal creatures.
There are plenty of news stories about people being mauled or killed by pit bulls who were sweet and never had a problem, or so said everybody. And I’m not up for hearing the usual about how any dog can be dangerous, because while this is true, they’re not bred for the sudden, unprovoked, relentless attack of a pit bull–because pit bulls were created for FIGHTING. I don’t care what people say, GENETICS MATTER. Pointers point, collies herd, pit bulls FIGHT. They ARE hardwired to have horrifyingly aggressive behaviors, even if it doesn’t look that way. They are not parlor pets; when will people stop acting like they are?
See Dr Craig Mixons research on the health hazards of dog noise. Not a “nuisance” at any level.
Please look at yourselves and tell me that you haven’t done things that were wrong/immoral/sinful,etc yourselves.
-Pit Bulls are only ‘evil’ Dogs because of the way how they were raised by abusive/neglectful owners
-Pit Bulls are only ‘evil’ Dogs because of how protective they can be to their owners, their owners that they got their love and care for
The breed isn’t evil. It’s the way how they were raised is how their behavior will be. To playful to savage, it depends on who is RAISING the Dog. Yes, there are idiots who are lazy, don’t care if their Pit Bull attacked/killed a pet, raise the Pit Bull into being fighter Dogs,etc, but you got to remember that there ARE good people who do love their Pit Bulls, and train them/get them trained and play with them.
Believing that the Pit Bull is an evil breed just makes you look ridiculous, I’m serious.
Human Aggression however, is a major fault in this breed and APBTs have never been bred for human aggression. They were used to fight other dogs, not humans. There were human aggressive examples, but these dogs were far from the majority of the breed. Now, since the breed has gotten popular with idiots, there are more human aggressive examples than ever because of poor breeding. This is not how the breed is supposed to be though and a well bred APBT is usually a very people friendly dog.
Pit bulls are by and large the most protected and apologized-for of the dangerous breeds, and that makes them more so. I would not say the unbelievable amount of deaths by these dogs are solely the result of abuse, illegal fighting, and poor or neglected training. I believe there is a problem with the breed. Doctors and animal behaviorists have told time and time again how pit bulls are unpredictable–even with humans. They are disproportionately responsible for dog-related attacks and fatalities. Look here: http://www.fatalpitbullattacks.com/ Here we have recorded death-by-pit-bulls. At the bottom of the list there are accounts from the 1800s. So even then it paid to stay away from pits. Again, I don’t believe it was completely accounted to the way the dogs were raised: http://www.dogsbite.org/pdf/pit-bulls-gary-wilkes-spring-2010-off-lead.pdf
Don’t even get me started on Dogsbite. They get their “Facts” from freaking news reports for God’s sake!
Again, I NEVER SAID PIT BULLS ARE EVIL. And I’m careful about what information I believe from BOTH sides of the pit debate. Gary Wilkes did not write a “news report”, he wrote about what it was like to grow up in the era in which dogfighting was legal.
You’re just another deluded and foolish dog-worshiper with a big mouth. We see ‘em come and go around here.
Animal Aggression is an accepted and common trait in this breed, yes. These dogs have been bred for generations and generations to fight other animals and there is no way to train that out. I do not believe in the “it’s all in how you raise them” only. Yeah sure, training certainly plays a role in how an animal acts, but genetics will always have a bigger effect no matter what. I never denied that, I just said that raising them badly could also make things no better.
Human Aggression however, is a major fault in this breed and APBTs have never been bred for human aggression. They were used to fight other dogs, not humans. There were human aggressive examples, but these dogs were far from the majority of the breed. Now, since the breed has gotten popular with idiots, there are more human aggressive examples than ever because of poor breeding. This is not how the breed is supposed to be though and a well bred APBT is usually a very people friendly dog.
Besides that, too many breeds are called “Pit Bulls”, even if they aren’t! There are about 42 different breeds that are considered “Pit Bulls” and most of those dogs are guardian breeds. This combined with the increase of bad breeders that don’t cull (And yes, by cull I mean kill) HUMAN aggressive APBTs is why the bite statistics are so high.
But then again, I forgot that nobody can like what YOU dislike, or they are labeled as “worshipers”! Just because somebody likes what you dislike, doesn’t always mean they “worship” it!
You can call me a dog worshiper all you like, but I will call you and your “insults” silly and pathetic!
Anyone who has devoted what limited emotional and intellectual capacity they might have to these worthless POS is truly deserving of ridicule. I agree with you that they need to learn not everyone is impressed with their “dog knowledge” nor view their motive for “rescue” as a selfless act. Quite the opposite, 99% of them are self-absorbed assholes who have little sense of civility or decency. I like to give them a dose of their own medicine so they know what it feels like……
You are simply one pathetic person. You only argument is moaning about something as silly as that? Pathetic person you are.
Yes, there are many “Pit Bull” Attacks, but very few of those are caused by well bred examples of the breed. Up until maybe the mid 80′s, Human Aggressive APBTs were the minority. If a dog showed human aggression, it was usually culled. There are definitely exceptions to this, but manbiters weren’t nearly as common as they are now, because the owners and breeders of these dogs actually gave a crap about the breed and culled human aggressive dogs. Good APBT breeders still do this, and guess what? Very few “Vicious Pit Bulls” come from reputable breeders (Like Tatonka Kennels, The Colby family, etc) The “Pit Bulls” you see at shelters are usually scatterbred mutts from backyard breeders. Point is, I do agree most “Pibble owners” are total idiots who have no idea that they’re dealing with a powerful, intelligent animal with one heck of a prey drive. I also think that if you’re going to get a dog like this, you better get one from a good breeder, do a crapton of research and get familiar with the breed. Pit bulls are not for everyone, but they seem to be the fad right now. There are only a handful of good breeders who care about the breed’s future and only a few owners who actually know the breed. This is why the breed’s reputation is in a rut right now. Pit bulls have been around a long time, if they’re so inherently evil why weren’t there Pit Bull attacks left and right before they became a fad?
Don’t even get me started on Dogsbite. They get their “Facts” from freaking news reports for God’s sake. Any way, I won’t deny that there are a lot of Pit Bull attacks, but what I’m saying is that is not because of the breed itself. It is because of irresponsible breeders and trainers. Like I said before, a good breeder culls human aggressive dogs.
Despite all of this, What about all of the APBTs that go their entire lives without even growling at a person? Are they vicious too?
Pit Bulls are a fad breed right now and that isn’t working in their favor. There are many, many APBTs, so for every pit that bites someone, there are so many more that don’t.
I never claimed to be an expert, you called me “Foolish”. I was defending myself, because it seemed like you were lumping me into the same category as the “Pibble” people. It appears you just go to Anti Pit Bull sites loaded with fake statistics, so who’s the “Foolish” one now?
Again I never claimed to be an expert, don’t put words in my mouth. I just said that I knew dogs. If stating my opinion gives me a “Big Mouth” then I guess that makes you a big mouth as well.
My dog (Who happens to be part Pit bull, by the way.) Is well trained, is kept on a leash and doesn’t go around mauling people. I have much more than a “Big Mouth” (see? that’s how you use quotation marks. You put them on things the other person actually said.) I have the experience to back up my arguments. I am well aware that my dog could maul someone, but she won’t. Besides the fact that she’s not aggressive towards people, she’s well trained and I know how to handle her. She would attack another dog, I will be the first to admit that, but I know how to handle her and I can keep that from happening.
Not all of us “Dog Worshipers” are blind idiots that think our dogs are sweet angels that can do no wrong.
And lol, Petsmart? Really, man?
I know that was supposed to be a joke (and not a very good one, at that) but are quite a few professions involving dogs. Ever heard of professional Dog Trainers?
Regardless, I don’t even want a dog related career. Just because I like dogs, doesn’t mean I want a job involving them. I’m probably gonna do animation any way… or car design perhaps.
It doesnt seem to matter how many times you/we tell the dog worshippers we could care less about reading their “extensive knowledge” of dog trivia. They STILL love to blather on as if any of it matters. It’s so incredibly boring and doesn’t cancel out the fact that dogs are documented aggressors. Ditzy Diane sounds remarkably like the other one you used to *itch slap regularly. I think you referred to her as C word. LOL. Could be her with a new screen name or also as likely is that all the dog cultists have the same mantra. geez……….
“No Pink Pie”
…Uh… I really have no idea how to respond to this…
I’m not a friggin’ brony, dude. I wasn’t going to comment on the fact that you’re a brony, but since you brought it up it’s fair game now.
“my argument is that you’re just another loud-mouthed dog “expert” (AKA dog-worshiper) who thinks they’re going to come here and “enlighten” us dog-haters”
Actually, I am not a “Dog Worshiper” or “expert” by any means. I am just a person who happens to like dogs. Sue me.
“Hopefully, like the rest of the dog-cult cretins, you’ll go away with a new perspective that the limits of dog tolerance and acceptance have been exceeded for the more civil and social members of society.”
I support ear cropping, dog breeding and tethering, so I don’t really get along with all the Bleeding Heart fur mommy types. I do realize that dogs have been put on a pedestal and I do not support it. I believe people should always come before animals. I never said otherwise, but it seems like you love to put words in my mouth and completely ignore everything I say..
“We’re fed-up with noisy neighborhoods, dog-shit everywhere and mindless devotion to a stupid inbred shit-eating scavengers by a segment of the population who gave up on normal inter-human relationships and chose to remain socially and intellectually stunted for the rest of their lives.”
Believe me, I don’t like this either. I don’t like the dogs that crap everywhere and bark constantly anymore than you do.
And I just have to say, my human relationships haven’t suffered one bit from owning my dog and my grades haven’t slipped either. Owning a dog doesn’t automatically make you a socially retarded idiot, get off your freaking high horse.
“The entire dog-cult is an aberration of normal society and should be recognized as such, especially you pitters -the sickest and most narcissistic of the bunch.”
First off, I love how you’re saying dog lovers are weird, yet most people own or at least like dogs.
And you’re calling me narcissistic, yet this whole time you’ve been acting like you’re some kind of superior, intelligent being simply because you don’t like dogs.
Again, I’m not a Pitter, I’m a person who happens to like Pit Bulls. How many times do I have to repeat that?
And this is where the brony part comes in.
You have the freaking nerve to call me a “Dog Worshiper”, When you belong to one of the most attention hungry, pervert filled cults on the internet.
You say I’m socially retarded? You watch a show for 5 year old girls.
I am not against Bronies, but if you’re going to sink as low as to call me a “Dog Worshiper”, I will go just as low.
There hasn’t been any logic in any of your arguments this entire time. The closest you’ve gotten to “facts” has been a link to a website that gets all of its information from freaking news reports.
How is that “educating” anyone? It sounds like name calling and slander to me.
Second of all, I would have done the same thing if this was about cats, fish, lizards, snakes, etc. This isn’t a “Stop messing with my favorite animal” thing. It’s not the opinion that bothers me, I can accept that people don’t like dogs. The thing that bugged me was the fact that you stated “facts” that were not only false, but very serious. Heck, I don’t like rodents, but I don’t make websites about how much I hate them and make up stuff like “all rodent owners are filthy”.
And just to clear things up (AGAIN) I do not worship dogs at all, I simply like them. I don’t believe ‘everyone’ likes me, in fact I know quite a few people on this site can’t stand me. I can maybe name two people who I would say “like” me. I’m okay with that too, my life doesn’t revolve around the internet and I really don’t give a crap about what random people on the internet think.
Also, I’ll say this again: Get off your freaking high horse. You are not in any way better than me simply because you hate an animal that I happen to like. If anyone is being “Narcissistic” here, it’s you!
I’m sure most of you have heard about 14-month old Daxton Borchardt who was brutally mauled to death by his babysitter’s two pit bulls while under her care on 3/6/2013. His father Jeff tells the full story of what happened on March 6th and the devastating aftermath in the months following the young boy’s savage death.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEFCH6btvng&feature=youtu.be
We should support this effort as a community. NO MORE DEAD KIDS
We can also pledge to stay informed. I think we should all do this if only to show our support
Wednesday, August 7, 2013
SOLON OH – AN AMERICAN BULLDOG ATTACKED A 3-YEAR-OLD BOY WHEN HIS PARENT STOPPED TO TALK TO ITS OWNER
On August 1 a dog attack resulted in a Solon boy, 3, being taken to Hillcrest Hospital where he received stitches on his head and ear. The child was walking with a parent and some other children along a path to a nearby playground when the parent stopped to talk to the AMERICAN BULLDOG’S owner. The dog came up and sniffed the boy but then started biting him on the ear knocking him to the ground and continuing the attack until being pulled off. The case has been turned over to the city’s animal warden to determine if charges should be brought.
http://www.cleveland.com/solon/index.ssf/2013/08/solon_police_blotter_for_8813.html
“The so-called American Bulldog is just another pit bull type dog — a pit bull bred up to weigh twice as much. The history of the ‘bull’ dog began in England, somewhere in the middle ages. It took hundreds of years of selective breeding to create dogs aggressive enough that they were fit for bull- and bear-baiting. The sport had its heyday during the reigns of Henry VIII and his daughter Elizabeth I, but as the law slowly abolished the torture of humans, public opinion began to turn also against the torture of animals for sport. In 1835, Britain passed a law that abolished bull- and bear-baiting.
The people – in particular the breeders supplying the dogs and those who ran the gambling rackets – had to turn to some other avenue of livelihood. Pitting ‘bull’ dogs against each other became the thing. No need to have, sustain and hide a bull or a bear. No need for an elaborate fighting pit that was big enough to protect the audience from a bear fighting for its life against a bunch of bulldogs. The bulldogs were cheaper to keep, required only an improvised fighting pit, and could be quickly hidden if police were on the way. Some lines were modified by adding terrier. This didn’t lead to losing the bulldog’s love of a fight to the death but made the dogs smaller. These smaller bulldogs were easy to transport on Naval ships, and so the British fighting dogs spread around the world.
It had taken a thousand years of careful breeding to create these specialized fighters / baiters that are so unlike any normal domestic dog. The British breeding program was so successful that these fighting dogs were used all over the world to increase the fighting tenacity of indigenous fighting and/or mastiff breeds. Never before or since was an experiment in changing the domestic dog so successful as the British thousand-years bulldog one. Even today, mixing in this type of dog is the only way to create new aggressive ‘breeds’. It doesn’t matter what you mix the bulldog type with, the trait will prevail — it’s genetic and strongly heritable.
“Sudden, Random, Unprovoked, Violent
Pit bulls In a Humane Society”
“…advocates are fond of mentioning that many pit bulls live without incident as gentle pets. These advocates ignore more compelling facts. 321 humans have been killed or disfigured by dogs during calendar year 2013; 316 of those attacks were by pit bulls. 16 of the attacks have caused human fatalities, 15 of those deaths were caused by pit bulls.”
Pit bull homicides need to be stopped BEFORE they happen, NOT AFTER.
http://www.buzzfeed.com/chelseamarshall/37-pictures-that-will-restore-your-faith-in-pit-bulls
Fact- These attacks and murders are 100% preventable! If you could prevent child abduction/rape/murder 100% would you not do it?! What is wrong with these despicable beast owners- completely selfish!!!
Solution- Annihilate the speices- Hell annihilate the entire canines as a whole!
ANOTHER PIT BULL MURDERS A CHILD
BAKER CITY, Ore. — An entire town is in mourning after a pit bull attack led to the death of a local 5-year-old-boy.
Those who knew the toddler, along with the entire town of Baker City are both saddened and shocked by the sudden young death.
School Superintendent Walt Wegener told KTVB an incident involving a dog took the kindergartner’s life on Friday.
“He was dropped off for babysitting and ended up being taken to the hospital where he was pronounced dead in the middle of the morning,” said Wegener.
Due to Baker School District’s four-days a week schedule for students, the child was not at school, but with a babysitter instead.
Baker City police are now investigating and won’t release many details on the matter, but they did say that the death occurred at a home in the city and that a pit bull was involved.
“I’m sure whenever police are ready with their investigation, they will release more information to the media,” said Wegener. “Right now, what we know is we lost one of our own and we need to take care of the rest of them.”
There’s no word yet on the owner of the dog, but the sheriffs office told KTVB that the dog had been impounded following the attack.
Wegener told KTVB that the school staff have been notified and counselors will be ready at the schools on Monday.